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CD



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Claire wrote:
So does Martin write romance withinin his novels like we know in our genre? I mean, I know he's primarily fantasy or whatever genre he writes in but does he do a good job with the romantic parts?


Short answer: no. Long answer: hell, no. Which is why I'm very very scared about this particular couple...

He does write very good and belivable relationships but they are definitely not "romance novel" type relationships. I think his books can be summed up as "the things people do for love" - but those things are not necessarily "good", nor is the love necessarily "healthy".


ChrisReader wrote:
Ha! Got it as soon as you said "belligerent sexual tension" Lol.


Yes I don't see an easy path for those two but Martin is tricky-you just never know where he is going to go.

I think you can guess the couple I was referring to that other people are shipping but I hope doesn't happen because I believe, as the church used to say, it would go against the laws of "consanguinity."



LOL! Thought you would Wink. And Martin is one tricksy bastard. That's what I actually love about his books - you can't predict anything. They might even have a HEA and sail off into the sunset together.

I'm with you on the other couple. Although being closely related hadn't stopped Jaime and Cersai for one...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CD wrote:
Long answer: hell, no.


Too funny, CD! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you see where they just cast Natalie Dormer (Anne Boleyn from "The Tudors") as Margaery Tyrell for season two?

I just don't see her as a 16 year old. This surprised me because they did a good job of casting young actors for the younger roles.

We'll have to wait and see how she does. I kind of wish they had gone for a talented unknown like they did for some of the other roles.

I'm so curious to see who they pick for Stannis Baratheon, it's such an integral role.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm so curious to see who they pick for Stannis Baratheon, it's such an integral role.


Me too! I'm hearing quite a lot of big (hunky) names being thrown around for that role. With Sean Bean's departure, we need our dose of big name eye-candy. Although Stannis is not really what you would call a sexy character..

My fave would be Christopher Eccleston. However, I know people have thrown around Mark Strong, Rufus Sewell or even Alan Rickman! Someone even mentioned Richard Armitage but as much as I love/lust after the guy, he seems a bit lightweight for the role. And much too hot Wink.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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we need our dose of big name eye-candy. Although Stannis is not really what you would call a sexy character..

My fave would be Christopher Eccleston. However, I know people have thrown around Mark Strong, Rufus Sewell or even Alan Rickman! Someone even mentioned Richard Armitage but as much as I love/lust after the guy, he seems a bit lightweight for the role. And much too hot .


I am so curious to see if they stick close to Stannis's description in the book or let the actor be more conventionally handsome. I could see Mark Strong pulling it off no problem. Christopher E. is a great actor and he was a good villian in "Elizabeth." I wouldn't mind looking at Rufus Sewell either! I think Armitage is a good enough actor but WAY too hot, LOL. Plus with all the big movie roles he's been getting (Hobbit etc.) surely not available.

Ciaran Hinds is too old for the part now but he has the kind of stern dark looks and gravitas the role calls for.


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I was away over the weekend so I didn't get a chance to see the finale until yesterday. Epic! So sorry to see KD go, especially since I'm still mourning ES.

I went out and got the first book, that's how hooked I am. Love Rob, LOVE Jon Snow, adore Ariya, and I'm a little chagrined to say, love Tyrion.


They are doing such a great job with the series aren't they? So glad you are reading the books- you will not be disappointed! They followed the first book so closely with only tiny tweaks that made sense for the production (some people online are griping because Ghost- Jon Snow's wolf barks in the show but not in the books- Puh-lease. I'm nitpicky but not that bad!)

Don't feel chagrined about Tyrion- I think he must be one of the most popular characters. Martin is a genius at creating such fully fleshed characters who are neither saints or complete villains. You will be surprised as you read who you can come to sympathise with!! Tyrion is such a smart, wry and compassionate character at times. I think Peter Dinklage is sheer perfection in the role.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short answer: no. Long answer: hell, no. Which is why I'm very very scared about this particular couple...


LOL!
In that case, I don't think I'll be reading him! For anyone interested in the books, I just saw the whole collection (paperback) at Costco for less than $30.

Tyrion has won me over! His "battle" scenes the other week were great! Bwahahaha!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisReader wrote:
Ciaran Hinds is too old for the part now but he has the kind of stern dark looks and gravitas the role calls for.


I can see that. But if we're going for actors who are currently too old, I would suggest John Malkovich. He'd be great at portraying both the gravitas and bitterness of the character.


ChrisReader wrote:
Don't feel chagrined about Tyrion- I think he must be one of the most popular characters. Martin is a genius at creating such fully fleshed characters who are neither saints or complete villains. You will be surprised as you read who you can come to sympathise with!! Tyrion is such a smart, wry and compassionate character at times. I think Peter Dinklage is sheer perfection in the role.


Dinklage must be over the moon with it - I think most good actors would have shrunk themselves if they could to play that role.

And I'm pretty sure that of all the characters from the first book, Tyrion, Arya and Dany are the most popular amoung readers, so much so that a number of people were extremely disappointed to find out that [minor spoilers] neither Tyrion's nor Dany's POV were included in the last book FEAST FOR CROWS. So we've basically been waiting for 11 years to find out what's happened to them. Talk about frustrating...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, more rumours on Christopher Eccleston taking the role of Stannis. Very excited!!!

Some other casting suggestions for season 2 (minor spoilers):

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/game_of_thrones/game_of_thrones_our_season_2_c.php

The one I really like is David Thewlis as Davos - I could definitely see that. And Brenden Gleeson as Mace Tyrell. Some of the other suggestion were a bit ridiculous - come on, Abbie Cornish from SUCKER PUNCH as Brienne?! What the hell are they smoking over there?[/url]
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:18 pm    Post subject: Love the Books Reply with quote

Hoping he closes all of the character threads...the 4th book seemed to be very open ended...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CD said
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Well, more rumours on Christopher Eccleston taking the role of Stannis. Very excited!!!

Some other casting suggestions for season 2 (minor spoilers):

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show/game_of_thrones/game_of_thrones_our_season_2_c.php

The one I really like is David Thewlis as Davos - I could definitely see that. And Brenden Gleeson as Mace Tyrell. Some of the other suggestion were a bit ridiculous - come on, Abbie Cornish from SUCKER PUNCH as Brienne?! What the hell are they smoking over there?


I would be very happy if all the Eccleston rumors were true! I just hope it's not wishful thinking on the bloggers part as I haven't seen any real proof they are even talking to him about the part.

I think Thewlis would be a fantastic Onion Knight!

Love Brendan Gleeson too- it could be a Harry Potter reunion,Lol.

Abbie Cornish!! That is ridiculous!! Thank goodness someone posted the casting description for Brienne online and it said very clearly "Do not submit model types for this role" and they were looking for an actress at least 5 foot 10 inches at a minimum. Hopefully the casting people are sticking to their own memos!

Still not happy about Natalie Dormer as Margaery. How is an almost 30 year old blue eyed actress the best choice for a sixteen year old brown eyed girl? Plus I don't think she's a great actress- she has two facial expressions, flare nostrils and pout or smirk. They did such a great job of casting young actors in the other roles I wish they had done the same here.

Melisandre is another one I am curious about. Someone suggested Christina Hendricks online and I would go along with that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did anyone see that they just cast the part of Brienne Of Tarth for Season 2?

There may be a tiny spoiler in the article as it mentions the name of a battle that occurs in the second book but it doesn't give any plot points away I don't think.

http://www.craveonline.com/tv/articles/170757-gwendoline-christie-joins-game-of-thrones

It looks like they did a great job, she is a relative unknown ( I never heard of her) and she is 6'3" which is wonderful for the role.

The casting picture shows her makeup-less and looking plain plus she has the correct coloring.

I hope all the rest of the casting goes as well!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a paper copy of Game Of Thrones for a short trip I am going on. I don't want to drag my ipad all over, so I have a huge copy of this book. Am anxious to start it. I started reading the 1st chapter in the bookstore and was very, very impressed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dance with Dragons is just a few days away - Tuesday the 12th. Even though I had sworn to myself I would NOT pick the saga back up till he was finished I, of course, pre-ordered Dance and re-read the others in anticipation. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My son got the first book. I started reading it b/f him and then I had to give it up b/c he wanted to read it, the nerve! I've been seriously thinking about getting my own copy! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xina said
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I just bought a paper copy of Game Of Thrones for a short trip I am going on. I don't want to drag my ipad all over, so I have a huge copy of this book. Am anxious to start it. I started reading the 1st chapter in the bookstore and was very, very impressed.



Martin is a fantastic writer isn't he? I realized not too long ago that I am slightly sexist when it comes to choosing new authors. Because over the years most of the books I Have enjoyed most, both classics and modern novels, were written by women I tend to try more female authors than male authors. That being said, I really enjoy Martin's books -he has the ability to blend action, emotion and description seamlessly. He also has the rare ability to write a female point of view as well as a male point of view.

I think everyone who has just picked up Game Of Thrones has a nice treat in store for them!
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