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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh my gosh, Ellen talked about the book on her show and then had a skit where they supposedly asked her to read for the audio version. I about died laughing!

I notice they feature an advertisement for vampire diaries before the clip that of course features Ian, coincidence? !!!

ETA: Ok, the clip of VD didn't show on the direct You Tube link, it did show on EL James facebook link to the video though. Ah well!

http://youtu.be/on3JCwnwHbU

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This is so funny! I just watched the entire skit. LOL!
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This is so funny! I just watched the entire skit. LOL!


Isn't it! I've gone back and watched it a couple times more. Love Ellen!

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OK. Can someone please tell me just what a person is suppose to read after finishing the FS trilogy????? Crying or Very sad


You should check out Bared to You by Sylvia Day. I have no read it yet, but I've heard it has a lot of similar themes.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13451045-bared-to-you
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should check out Bared to You by Sylvia Day. I have no read it yet, but I've heard it has a lot of similar themes.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13451045-bared-to-you
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I would second this recommendation, but with a caveat; you are going to draw comparisons between this book and the Fifty series, because they are similar. And you will likely determine that Fifty is the winner. HOWEVER, stick with it. The book gets better and better as it goes on. I really liked it and the second will probably be even better than the first.

I read the Thoughtless series after FSoG. Not the same subject matter, but I am now obsessed with Kellan (the hero) about as much as I am with Christian.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should check out Bared to You by Sylvia Day. I have no read it yet, but I've heard it has a lot of similar themes.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13451045-bared-to-you
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I would second this recommendation, but with a caveat; you are going to draw comparisons between this book and the Fifty series, because they are similar. And you will likely determine that Fifty is the winner. HOWEVER, stick with it. The book gets better and better as it goes on. I really liked it and the second will probably be even better than the first.

I read the Thoughtless series after FSoG. Not the same subject matter, but I am now obsessed with Kellan (the hero) about as much as I am with Christian.



I've really enjoyed Sylvia Day's work, and haven't read this, but can't get past all the remarks online that this is sooo similar to Fifty Shades. Is this the first of romance authors trying to get on the bandwagon? Like I said, I love some of her books, but don't know as I'll read this. Just because it souinds, from comments on romance novel blogs and sites, like a copy of Fifty...except for the cover, which is typical romance novel fare. Lacking in originality, but highly recommended by the blogs and such that hate Fifty. Yet another reason not to read. Probably a pass.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[I've really enjoyed Sylvia Day's work, and haven't read this, but can't get past all the remarks online that this is sooo similar to Fifty Shades. Is this the first of romance authors trying to get on the bandwagon? Like I said, I love some of her books, but don't know as I'll read this. Just because it souinds, from comments on romance novel blogs and sites, like a copy of Fifty...except for the cover, which is typical romance novel fare. Lacking in originality, but highly recommended by the blogs and such that hate Fifty. Yet another reason not to read. Probably a pass.


I'm undecided about trying this one, I notice that the glowing reveiws are repeated on Amazon and Barnes and Noble which makes me think they've been padded. From the reviews I can't really get a handle on the personaliteis of these two. So for those that have read it, is the hero an alpha male? How would you describe the heroine?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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xina wrote:
[I've really enjoyed Sylvia Day's work, and haven't read this, but can't get past all the remarks online that this is sooo similar to Fifty Shades. Is this the first of romance authors trying to get on the bandwagon? Like I said, I love some of her books, but don't know as I'll read this. Just because it souinds, from comments on romance novel blogs and sites, like a copy of Fifty...except for the cover, which is typical romance novel fare. Lacking in originality, but highly recommended by the blogs and such that hate Fifty. Yet another reason not to read. Probably a pass.


I'm undecided about trying this one, I notice that the glowing reveiws are repeated on Amazon and Barnes and Noble which makes me think they've been padded. From the reviews I can't really get a handle on the personaliteis of these two. So for those that have read it, is the hero an alpha male? How would you describe the heroine?

Linda



I think the best way of going about it to see if you are going to get deja vu that's so bad that you won't enjoy it, is to read the Amazon sample. For me, the book resembled Fifty Shades the most in the beginning. I mean, I really almost put it down. However, I was glad I stuck with it because Sylvia is really a great writer and somewhere toward the middle it felt like she was working with the same formula, but she was trying to get somewhere a bit different. I can appreciate the derivative in some respects, heck, we spent a lot of time talking about how Fifty should not be called a Twilight rip-off.

Linda, by far the most original thing about the book is how different Eva is from Ana. It's not noticeable at the outset because of the meetings and reactions, but Eva is very vocal and she has a very strong personality. That's not a knock against our Ana, but it does eventually create a very different dynamic between her and the hero, who yes, is very alpha. For me, Fifty was a battle of wits at times between Ana and Christian with initially Christian as the obviously stronger, more vocal personality (the Dom). With Bared to You, you have Eva who is not an obvious submissive, not by a longshot. There's some power struggles, like in Fifty, but they aren't the same kinds of struggles. So I don't knock Sylvia Day because of the familiar plot structures.

I still prefer the Fifty trilogy, but with Bared to You you can tell it is written by a seasoned writer, if only because the secondary characters/conflicts are richer. The only thing I've ever said that bugged me about Fifty was the Katherine Kavenaugh part and resolutions for the friends. There's more conflict with the secondary plot in Bared to You.

I'm hanging on for sure at least until the second book comes out. I'm at peace with the fact that nothing will replace my Fifty. But Gideon is pretty darn edible too.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the best way of going about it to see if you are going to get deja vu that's so bad that you won't enjoy it, is to read the Amazon sample. For me, the book resembled Fifty Shades the most in the beginning. I mean, I really almost put it down. However, I was glad I stuck with it because Sylvia is really a great writer and somewhere toward the middle it felt like she was working with the same formula, but she was trying to get somewhere a bit different. I can appreciate the derivative in some respects, heck, we spent a lot of time talking about how Fifty should not be called a Twilight rip-off.



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True, we did spend much time discussing the difference between Fifty and Twilight, but the comparison was frankly, trivial. I have a slight problem reading an author's work that is apparently riding the coattails of a huge book in the romance genre. And who can blame her? Romance is never recognized by such a large audience. I still have reservations about it being so blatant. I haven't read it, but the many reviews seem to say the book is "Fifty Shades written better". Really? Why not just write your own book? I've really enjoyed Sylvia Day books, but I don't know if I can be on board with this. I'm sure she is one of many authors who will try to cash in on this trend. More power to her. Maybe I'll read it one day. *shrug*
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda and LikesBadBoys: thank you both for your book recommendations, I archived them.

Tesa: I am very intrigued by Sylvia Day's book, I am going to read it especially because it's a 2012 release. It's a new author for me although I do own a couple of her books. Is the new book a contemporary? I thought she wrote only historicals

To all the readers that think Ana is a doormat:

First of all, Christian himself says that it's her challenging, defying personality that intrigues and attracts him to her.

Also, although I do enjoy strong heroines sometimes, considering myself a weak person, I don't understand all this contempt the 'weak' heroines are getting. If she is not a kick-ass, nerves-of-steel kind of heroine but a regular, easily scared but kind-hearted and maybe with a sense of humour, why is she not considered worthy of love?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linda; Thank you so much for all that info. I feel better knowing I have something to look forward to. I felt so down when I finished FS.
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mirole wrote:
Linda and LikesBadBoys: thank you both for your book recommendations, I archived them.

Tesa: I am very intrigued by Sylvia Day's book, I am going to read it especially because it's a 2012 release. It's a new author for me although I do own a couple of her books. Is the new book a contemporary? I thought she wrote only historicals

To all the readers that think Ana is a doormat:

First of all, Christian himself says that it's her challenging, defying personality that intrigues and attracts him to her.

Also, although I do enjoy strong heroines sometimes, considering myself a weak person, I don't understand all this contempt the 'weak' heroines are getting. If she is not a kick-ass, nerves-of-steel kind of heroine but a regular, easily scared but kind-hearted and maybe with a sense of humour, why is she not considered worthy of love?


Thanks for saying that Mirole, I feel the same way! And this kind of heroine is also more 'real' to me than the kick-ass nerves of steel time, which frankly I have gotten tired of. Ana was anyong at times but she's far from weak, IMHO.

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[I think the best way of going about it to see if you are going to get deja vu that's so bad that you won't enjoy it, is to read the Amazon sample. For me, the book resembled Fifty Shades the most in the beginning. I mean, I really almost put it down. However, I was glad I stuck with it because Sylvia is really a great writer and somewhere toward the middle it felt like she was working with the same formula, but she was trying to get somewhere a bit different. I can appreciate the derivative in some respects, heck, we spent a lot of time talking about how Fifty should not be called a Twilight rip-off.

Linda, by far the most original thing about the book is how different Eva is from Ana. It's not noticeable at the outset because of the meetings and reactions, but Eva is very vocal and she has a very strong personality. That's not a knock against our Ana, but it does eventually create a very different dynamic between her and the hero, who yes, is very alpha. For me, Fifty was a battle of wits at times between Ana and Christian with initially Christian as the obviously stronger, more vocal personality (the Dom). With Bared to You, you have Eva who is not an obvious submissive, not by a longshot. There's some power struggles, like in Fifty, but they aren't the same kinds of struggles. So I don't knock Sylvia Day because of the familiar plot structures.

I still prefer the Fifty trilogy, but with Bared to You you can tell it is written by a seasoned writer, if only because the secondary characters/conflicts are richer. The only thing I've ever said that bugged me about Fifty was the Katherine Kavenaugh part and resolutions for the friends. There's more conflict with the secondary plot in Bared to You.

I'm hanging on for sure at least until the second book comes out. I'm at peace with the fact that nothing will replace my Fifty. But Gideon is pretty darn edible too.


Ok, I'll likely give it a try, it's not expensive and I may like it! I'm just worried that the heroine may be the 'anti-Ana' from some of the reviews I read and if that's the case I can't see this being the book for me. It was hard to get a handle on the H&H from the reviews, I guess I am spoiled by AAR's format where they take each of them and give you a good idea what to expect.

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Ok, I'll likely give it a try, it's not expensive and I may like it! I'm just worried that the heroine may be the 'anti-Ana' from some of the reviews I read and if that's the case I can't see this being the book for me. It was hard to get a handle on the H&H from the reviews, I guess I am spoiled by AAR's format where they take each of them and give you a good idea what to expect.

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Linda, Be sure to report back. I might read it if you really love it.
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I don't think it's Fifty Shades written better, it's just similiar plot structures written by Sylvia Day, whose writing I always enjoyed anyway. A lot of the weaknesses certain readers find in Fifty are things I find charming and funny. I wouldn't want Fifty to be any different, but I am curious to see where Day will take the story. Hands down, I still prefer Christian to Gideon and Ana to Eva. I strongly encourage reading the sample or seeing if someone will lend you a copy if you feel ambivalent about it.

I admit to finding the similarities off putting for at least a third of the book, and I know some fans of Fifty got past that, like me, and others just couldn't enjoy it.
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Linda in sw va wrote:
mirole wrote:
Linda and LikesBadBoys: thank you both for your book recommendations, I archived them.

Tesa: I am very intrigued by Sylvia Day's book, I am going to read it especially because it's a 2012 release. It's a new author for me although I do own a couple of her books. Is the new book a contemporary? I thought she wrote only historicals

To all the readers that think Ana is a doormat:

First of all, Christian himself says that it's her challenging, defying personality that intrigues and attracts him to her.

Also, although I do enjoy strong heroines sometimes, considering myself a weak person, I don't understand all this contempt the 'weak' heroines are getting. If she is not a kick-ass, nerves-of-steel kind of heroine but a regular, easily scared but kind-hearted and maybe with a sense of humour, why is she not considered worthy of love?


Thanks for saying that Mirole, I feel the same way! And this kind of heroine is also more 'real' to me than the kick-ass nerves of steel time, which frankly I have gotten tired of. Ana was anyong at times but she's far from weak, IMHO.

Linda


Ditto to what Linda posted!!
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