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New Film version of THE THREE MUSKETEERS
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ChrisReader



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ug. Yes. Horrible, horrible. It was like "let's teach these ignorant viewers that WAR is BAD. No matter that it's never mentioned in the actual book--I know what's REALLY going on."


I am always amazed at screenwriters who think that the classics need to be completely re-written by them. I'm not against some tweaks but completely changing the ending and the tone of a classic is ridiculous.

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That Room With A Few "update" was as bad as that abomination rolled out as the TV miniseries WWI sequel to Anne of Green Gables. YUCK!


YES! I was just going to post that when I read your comments!! Why take "Anne's House Of Dreams" and make it into "Crazy War Nightmares for Avonlea" starring some other made up guy not even from the Anne books?! Talk about crazy hubris on the part of the writer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My favorite is the rollicking 1970s duo (Reed, Chamberlain, York, Lee, Dunaway, Heston!) but I also enjoyed the 1940s edition with Gene Kelly and Lana Turner. No other version I've seen has even been halfway decent and the new looks to continue the trend.


Gene Kelly's version is my favourite. However, I especially love how they sneakily cut and pasted a fight scene from that film into SINGING IN THE RAIN. A sly wink at the audience Wink.

I actually prefer film versions of MAN IN THE IRON MASK though - it's a lot more filmable, I suppose. I loved the Richard Chamberlain version and, even though they took so many liberties, I also loved the old Louis Hayward version as well. Goes without saying that I completely avoided the recent diCaprio version.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CD wrote:
Gene Kelly's version is my favourite. However, I especially love how they sneakily cut and pasted a fight scene from that film into SINGING IN THE RAIN. A sly wink at the audience Wink.


Oh, is that the silent film towards the beginning? With the bad French guy trying to ram Gene Kelly with a halberd down a flight of stairs, while Jean Hagen swooningly cries "Philippe!"

Funnily enough, I just watched Singin' in the Rain for the first time in years. My favourite scene is still "Yes, yes yes!" "No, no, no!"

And I still think the dance with Cyd Charisse at the end is still a pointless 15-minute spotlight for Gene Kelly.

Sigh. Love it anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CD wrote:
PWNN wrote:
My favorite is the rollicking 1970s duo (Reed, Chamberlain, York, Lee, Dunaway, Heston!) but I also enjoyed the 1940s edition with Gene Kelly and Lana Turner. No other version I've seen has even been halfway decent and the new looks to continue the trend.


Gene Kelly's version is my favourite. However, I especially love how they sneakily cut and pasted a fight scene from that film into SINGING IN THE RAIN. A sly wink at the audience Wink.

I actually prefer film versions of MAN IN THE IRON MASK though - it's a lot more filmable, I suppose. I loved the Richard Chamberlain version and, even though they took so many liberties, I also loved the old Louis Hayward version as well. Goes without saying that I completely avoided the recent diCaprio version.


Chamberlain - not only King of the Mini-series but Dumas adaptations - Man In The Iron Mask, The Musketeer movies and The Count Of Monte Cristo (the later might be my favorite).

And yes the wink in Singing In The Rain to The Three Musketeers is wonderful cheeky fun.

The only thing that rivals - "No No No, Yes Yes Yes" is Kelly actually dancing in the rain.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chamberlain - not only King of the Mini-series but Dumas adaptations - Man In The Iron Mask, The Musketeer movies and The Count Of Monte Cristo (the later might be my favorite).

And yes the wink in Singing In The Rain to The Three Musketeers is wonderful cheeky fun.

The only thing that rivals - "No No No, Yes Yes Yes" is Kelly actually dancing in the rain.


I saw the film as a child but it was only when I fell in love for the first time that I then really understood that routine Wink. But come on - "Make 'em laugh"? Or "Good Mornin'"? Or "Moses Supposes". Or the first screech: "What's the big idea?"? Or "Dignity. Always Dignity."?

Film bliss - might need to rewatch...

As for THE COUNT OF MONTE CRISTO - the best version in my mind is the French mini-series with Gerald Depardieu in the title role. One scene that sticks in my mind is when Mercedes finally figures out who he is and midway through the conversation, they start unconsiously using the familiar "tu" rather than "vous" form. It means so much more because up until then, both Dantes and Mercedes used the formal form even with, respectively, their mistress and husband, which I imagine is historically accurate.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CD wrote:

I actually prefer film versions of MAN IN THE IRON MASK though - it's a lot more filmable, I suppose. I loved the Richard Chamberlain version and, even though they took so many liberties, I also loved the old Louis Hayward version as well. Goes without saying that I completely avoided the recent diCaprio version.


You know, I never expected to like the DiCaprio version, but it was being screened at some event I was stuck at and it was actually kind of charming. Jeremy Irons is always great, and although DiCaprio is weak as the king version of the Man, he's really good as the one who was locked up. I would actually recommend that.

I thought the trailer for the new one looked bizarre but I actually do like Milla Jovovich. I thought she was great in The Fifth Element.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know, I never expected to like the DiCaprio version, but it was being screened at some event I was stuck at and it was actually kind of charming. Jeremy Irons is always great, and although DiCaprio is weak as the king version of the Man, he's really good as the one who was locked up. I would actually recommend that.


I'll second that recommendation. It's flawed but quite watchable. Particularly loved Gabriel Byrne and thought DiCaprio gave an interesting performance.
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